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Ritual cursing (by orthodox Rabbi's), with its origin in the esoteric Jewish tradition of mysticism and magic known as the cabbala, has proved effective against their enemies in the past. Aharon Kempinski, a well-known archaeologist, was cursed for digging up graves in the path of a main road in Jerusalem in 1993. Within a year he died of Aids. Six years earlier, Yigal Shilo died of cancer at 50 after a curse was placed on him for excavating the ancient city of Jerusalem.
Israelis succumb to the (Orthodox) Rabbi's curse
Seeded on Sun Jan 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST
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News opinion from 1996 shows that religious orthodox Jews and Rabbi's hold a wild sway on what happens in Israel. Mind you these extremists are a part Netanyahu's government.
The exact mechanism of the curse is mysterious and complex. In theory the Pulsa de Nura curse should be initiated by 10 rabbis fasting. On the third day of the fast they stand in a circle around the Torah scrolls, a ram's horn is blown and the curse is placed on the offender.
A few years ago, many Israelis might have taken the bizarre rituals of the cabbala, with its roots in the Middle Ages, less seriously. But the ultra-Orthodox and the religious parties are growing in influence.
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#1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 2:56 PM ESTSunday 21 July 1996
Wow. must be some kind of a record.
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#2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 2:57 PM ESTHere is the golden lines on how the Extremist orthodox have taken over the government
The appeal of magic and mysticism was also underlined during the Israeli election in May, when 150,000 amulets blessed by an ancient and revered rabbi were distributed among voters by the ultra-Orthodox party Shas. The magic amulets were treated with derision by the Israeli media, until the election results showed unprecedented gains for Shas.
The election should have reduced the need for the ultra-Orthodox to employ curses to achieve their ends. With religious parties winning 23 seats in the 120-member Knesset as well as positions in the cabinet, they are well placed to close down archaeological excavations legally. Under the previous government, the Attorney General's office had decided a year ago that "bones should not be considered antiquities". Any bones found must be turned over to the Ministry of Religious Affairs for burial within 24 hours.
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Shas is an extremists party very closely aligned with settlers.
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Didn't this happen only recently, the spit thing on a women
Not all curses are intended to kill. Some simply call on other Jews to spurn or spit at a person. Other curses specify a punishment such as cancer or economic ruin. One target was Ernst Japhet of the Bank Leumi, who financed construction of a hotel in Tiberias on the Sea of Galilee. Accused of desecrating a cemetery, he was ritually cursed in 1983, became involved in a stock market scandal and went to prison.
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#3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 2:58 PM ESTThe Ultra Orthodox Jewish man who loves to spit at and curse women.
December 26, 2011
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And do Israeli women as a rule just bow submissively and take it (being spit upon)? If some random nobody spit on my spouse on the street, I can assure you that the spitter would not be doing it again to anybody else. (It is hard to spit when your jaw is wired shut because somebody broke it in multiple places.)
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In all likelihood, the man who cursed and spit on women voted for some party who are part of Israeli government right now.
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Didn't this happen only recently
Maybe. unlike your article :p
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Hi IDF. Our Rov had a right go in Shule about the Haredim and the spitting thing. He is just as exasperated with them as the rest of us. He sees it as one big Chillul Hashem and I'm inclined to agree. Very unfortunate - it's grist to the mill for the demonizers and they don't need much.
Anyway, have a good week.
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Refer you to #3.1
Great. why don't you seed it then. instead of putting it on the back of this extremely old, 1996 article??
Pretty much spot on, Dennis. good week to you as well.
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And why don't you seed that. I see the past links very nicely with the present.
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And why don't you seed that.
There are several seeds regarding this issue currently running, I've commented on a few of them. no need for me to seed it then, you see. I recommend you stick to newer stuff in the future, this isn't Oldvine.
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it's grist to the mill for the demonizers and they don't need much.
With Shas party of orthodox sharing government power (Ministry of Interior affairs and Deputy PM) in Netanyahu's cabinet there are no surprises here !
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With Shas party of orthodox sharing government power
Don't be silly. or do some homework before posting...
Haredi attack on girl nauseating, disgusting
Interior Minister Eli Yishai on Monday lashed out at a haredi man who spat on an eight-year-old schoolgirl in Beit Shemesh last week, calling the action "nauseating and disgusting."
The man claimed the girl, Na'ama Margolis, had been dressed immodestly.
Yishai told a Shas faction meeting that such behavior goes against the values of the Torah, and the law must be enforced "with all its severity."
The Shas leader related a Talmudic story in which the sage, Rabbi Yohanan Ben-Zakkai, opposed an extremist group called Sikrikim, after whom the modern-day haredi group is named, saying that the phenomenon in which a minority is more extreme than leading rabbis is at least 2,000 years old.
"I call on everyone, especially the media, to recognize that this is an extremist group," Yishai said. "There have been attempts at incitement against haredim, and I hope they end soon."
For the most part, Shas are against this craziness also.
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I will do it for you
Shas (Hebrew: ש״ס, an acronym for Sephardim Shomrei Torah, lit. Sephardi Torah Guardians) is an ultra-orthodox religious political party in Israel.[1] Founded in 1984 under the leadership of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, a former Israeli Sephardi chief rabbi, who remains its spiritual leader today, it primarily represents the interests of religiously observant Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews.[2]
Shas is currently Israel's fourth largest party in the Knesset, and, according to The Jewish Daily Forward, “the unchallenged kingmaker of Israeli politics”.[3] It has joined several coalition governments with both Labor and Likud since 1984.[1] In Benjamin Netanyahu′s present coalition government the party holds four cabinet posts.
In 2010, as United States President Obama called for talks between Netanyahu and Abbas, Ovadia Yosef called Palestinians "evil, bitter enemies of Israel" and said "Abu Mazen and all these evil people should perish from this world. God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians.
Previously Yosef had called Arabs "vipers," and called for Israel to "annihilate" Arabs. "It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable."[10] This last remark, later argued Yosef, was directed at "terrorist" Arabs and not all of the Arab world.
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Wiki, unnecessary. I'm pretty in touch with our politics.
You're mixing stuff, making a nice salad of it all.
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It helps to be more smarter sometime to see things from the other side of the fence and another perspective.
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other side of the fence and another perspective.
What a great suggestion. you go first then. knowing your record on NV, I have no doubt you're in a more immediate need of it.
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I do that everyday but do not see any positives rather more negatives. I will see some positives if conditions for peace process and negotiations are created and supported by Israel instead of deteriorating them further
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What a great suggestion. you go first then. knowing your record on NV, I have no doubt you're in a more immediate need of it.
Yes, if only everybody were like you - for instance, you are very often on seeds defending Palestinians and their right to have a nation of their own, IDF. :)
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In fact (and from my first day on the vine), I'm on record for supporting just that (two states for two peoples), as well as posting numerous seeds focusing on the extreme wing from within the settler community, their despicable acts against Palestinians, and IDF alike. thanks for noticing, bonos!
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It's very rare that you find someone that feels that a group of people have a right to have a nation. Especially when those people have lived continuously in a land for thousands of years. :)
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You can call the I/P a lot of things. simple it's not. still waiting for rozdane to take some of her/his own advice :)
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During the Yom Kippur war Kabbalist Rabbis sat in airforce planes, behind the pilots, and prayed while they were in battle with the Egyptians and Syrians.
So, does the IDF have a great airforce, or great flying Rabbis?
or, maybe we never hear about all the curses and prayers that fail to coincidentally have their wishes come true?
#5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 3:45 PM ESTI have a little more interesting story for you from the read article
In the wake of Rabin's murder, the ultra-Orthodox are more secretive about curses. They also admit that curses can go wrong, indeed backfire. During the Gulf war, a curse aimed at Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, for firing Scud missiles at Israel, reputedly failed because the ritual was improperly carried out and the son of one of the rabbis involved died in his stead.
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lol, its because the curse backfired, not because there was a war going on.
its sad that these people are a part of Israeli government and are the kingmakers.
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Believers in "god" praying for people to die. Religion really is an evil visited upon mankind.
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#6 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 7:23 PM ESTI will say what I believe is a truism about the Bermuda Triangle that is analogous to these curse crews. If you take an area the size of the Bermuda Triangle and put it anyplace else and observe carefullly, you will find that just as man weird things and disappearances will occur in the other spot.
To say that somebody died x amount of years later because what some crackpot claims is a curse is to mock God and his Prophets and the holy spirit. You can get the same odds witout adding a curse to the odds to make it more interesting.
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