Obstacles to Middle East peace: (No permenant Israeli) Borders and (illegal) settlements

Perfect response ramikay that hits the real nerves of the zionist militant vicious extremists,

While the whole world is talking about the stop to illegal settlements israeli extremist as the main reason for peace impediment israeli extremists continue to try to distract this issue with false attacks on them from their imposed man-made prison Gaza as the issue. The israeli militant extremists have been doing this now for so many years that the world knows there tricks and distractive tactics very well

Salmann,

While the whole world is talking about the stop to illegal settlements israeli extremist as the main reason for peace impediment

I believe your statement would only be correct if you had said, "The whole 'Islamic' world ..."

The non Islamic world seems, as Israel's growing economic strength confirms, to love Israeli products and commerce. Palestinians contribute little to the global economy, and the non Islamic world does not seem to care about the Palestinian lack of a country. After all, it was the Palestinians who rejected the U.N.'s original offer in 1948.

More BS comments comin from youv Kevin as usual. Its the majority countries of the world calling for stop to illegal settlements that are the root cause of impediment to peace.

UN chief urges Israel to stop settlement construction

Even jews concerned about peace (and not the militant extremists settlers you support) are saying the same.

Stop Settlements

Rabbi John Friedman
JTA Wire Service

But surely, if we want what’s best for the Jewish state, we must tell the leadership of our spiritual home the truth. And the truth is, President Obama is right when he says that settlement building must stop.

There are many reasons. The economic drain of the settlements on the Israeli economy is enormous; Israel spends more than $0.5 billion on the settlements annually, with each settler getting thousands of dollars more in benefits than other Israelis.

Furthermore, the Israeli government has signed an international agreement committing itself to a freeze — the 2003 “road map.” Also, since the establishment of a viable Palestinian state depends on territorial contiguity, more construction makes that achievement much more difficult.

Kevin

Salmann

While the whole world is talking about the stop to illegal settlements israeli extremist as the main reason for peace impediment

Kevin

I believe your statement would only be correct if you had said, "The whole 'Islamic' world ..."

Yes, the whole world except the israeli "lap dog, the USA" is talking about the illegal occupation and the need for it to stop.

BDS is slowly gaining support, yes Kevin even in the USA.

Salmann and curtonthebeach

Your response comments may be falling on some deaf ears.

My understanding the so called christian and catholic zionists is that they are leeches who have attached themselves to the Israeli militant extremist machinery to see their false dream of final hour come in which all non-christian non-catholic (including jews in israel) will be annihilated and they will rise up as victors.

Clearly they the so called christian catholic zionists) are the ones who are the ones who are trying to create environment of turmoil in middle-east. The opportunist jewish militant extremist zionists in their craze and frenzy of greater Israel are embracing them as well wishers.

Here is a good example of how these parties are supporting each other in this crazy game while the great majority that wants peace is being planned to be used as a cannon fodder.

Salmann and curtonthebeach

Your response comments may be falling on some deaf ears.

Yeap, it might not register with Kevin unless it is accompanied by a huge explosion.

Is that some kind of threat towards Kevin.....to make him "hear" by use of an explosive device?... like assad trying to make the rebels hear his position??!!!!!!!!

Obstacles to peace: Hamas, and whiney liberals who buy into their lying propoganda. Do you really think if Hamas disarmed and recognized Israel, ceasing aggression in word and deed, that Israel would not counter with an offer of peace? Thing is, Hamas will never accept Israel, and will never stop aggression. It's what defines them, and without it, they would cease to exist.

And how about Israel pledging to open the blockade so that people of Gaza and Palestine have an opportunity for trade with the world better their economic standards and themselves vote out Hamas from power. Have you or any other blind supporters of Israel thought about that possibility ? I am sure not because of that negative and blunt attitudes.

ramikay and rozdane - looks like your comment practically shut off that distracting rant from Kevin Mirek and a repeat by Levi to do the same is of no value either.

Long Time No see Jay-Kay

Wrong answer...go directly to jail.... do not pass GO do not collect 200 dollars!

I'm thinking it's the recently banned N Esp. This one doesn't type like jay-kay. Already reported last night. I guess we'll know this coming week when the staff returns.

No, not N Esp, writing is not childish enough or completely uneducated enough for N Esp, she was a total moron.

Shall we play seven question??

No need too, Sally or Tyler will sort it out on Monday!!!!!!! :)

AbdullahKhaleeji7, I don't know about anyone else, but I appreciate your comments. I am an American, a Messianic Jew. One should not assume, however, that I give Israel a free pass even as I denounce radical Islam. The sentiments of those who hate Israel are that unless you agree and hate Israel, while embracing the Palestinian cause, then you must love and approve of all that Israel does. I look for truth, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Both Palestinians and Israel commit wrong acts, in violation of both the Quran and the Torah. I know that One is to come who will make all things clear, and bring truth and righteousness to Muslim, Jew and Christian. The ones who are wicked and do not love the truth will go away into darkness reserved for them.

And in your wealth, I hope you have the good heart of compassion and ease the burden of the poor and suffering, for that is the purpose for which God gives wealth.

ramikay, I don't know about you, but I want peace. I really, really do. I want Palestinians to have their own state and be satisfied with it. They can conduct trade with Israel, Egypt, Syria, and provide for the prosperity of Gaza. And what were the residents prior to the creation of the nation of Israel? Perhaps the day may yet come when they shall say "our current condition is better than it was back then."

I cannot give to you what you ask of me, the condemning of Israel for using live ammunition against unarmed civilians. I will not say it has not happened. Israel is alone among the Muslim nations in investigation and holding accountable those who commit violations of their rules of conflict engagement. Hamas praises those Palestinians who "strike a blow" against unarmed Israeli civilians. And even though it has happened, the occurrences are few and very far between. That Hamas has lied and manufactured such accusations is well known. I am after truth, and even though so much false and half-truth is thrown into the air like the barley in the wind, I must hold out for the truth. It will one day be known.

There is another way to peace, ramikay.

The problem with the pre-1967 borders is that the Palestinians banned Israelis from their revered site, the Western Wall, which is a wall of Solomon's Temple, still existing today. Israel has not barred Palestinians from visting the Dome of the Rock or Al-Akqsa mosques, yet there is no reason to expect that Palestinians would continue to allow Israelis to visit the Western Wall. Even if they said so, I would not believe them. And that's just one compelling reason why Israel must not retreat to pre-1967 borders. Israel asked Jordan to stay out of the 1967 war, and Jordan attacked. They got beaten, and those who joined in the attack lost their control of east Jerusalem. Now Israel must give it back?

As for the settlements, I might be in agreement with you, there. But here's how I see it. If Israel builds the settlements, and somehow, must give back the land, would the Palestinians destroy the buildings? They would be foolish if they did. The Palestinians should focus on gaining a state, and doing the things that would bring their own state. Then any Israeli encroachment on Palestinian land would be clearly labelled illegal, whereas now it's a matter of interpretation.

The facts

By making putting all kinds of barbed wire, concrete wall, military check posts barriers and blockades, Israel has virtually shut the free movements of the Palestinian to even meet their family members. The blame lies on Israel for creating the environment of hate between people.

That is a fact rozdane.

Excellent comments and analysis(pov) Levi777. Unfortunately with both Likud and Hamas in power.....not much will change.

I think it does not matter where you are from as long as you are for peace in the world